EPISODE OVERVIEW
In this episode, Chef Mareya interviews Cori Sue Morris, founder of Retreat, exploring the benefits of microdosing with psychedelic mushrooms for well-being. They discuss the global mental health crisis and the shift towards natural alternatives. Microdosing psilocybin mushrooms can off increased joy, problem-solving, mood enhancement, and productivity. The interview demystifies these mushrooms, revealing their benefits for all. Welcome to "Recipes for Your Best Life," where food, health, and wellness intersect.
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‘’Psychedelics help me realize that you can't address your health without addressing your mind’’ – Cori Sue Morris
“What psychedelic mushrooms do is they help us unlock trauma. They enhance our neural capacity in neural connections and they also make us feel more grounded and connected and help fight things like depression.”
-Corri Sue Morris
TIMESTAMPS
2:16 Getting behind the curtain of what microdosing means
2:40 How did Cori get started down this road to begin with
5:25 What made Cori compelled to go down more of the psychedelic mushroom route from a research perspective
9:50 Guidelines to the people who want to try it but are scared to death
13:16 How long does it take before you can see the benefits?
18:48 Mushrooms have been around forever, but it’s new to the Western world
19:18 Is there documented data that actually shows results?
22:30 Does it help with the hormonal shifts like moving into menopause
31:49 The favorite meal question
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
00:00:00:18 - 00:00:38:18
Speaker 1
As a chef. When somebody asks me if I eat mushrooms, I say, Of course I do. I love them. But today's guests kind of opened me up to a different type of mushroom consumption. Today, I'm interviewing Cori Sue Morris. She's the founder of Retreat. Microdosing and Retreat is all about introducing psychedelic or psilocybin mushrooms to the masses and helping to shift how we perceive these psychedelics as a way to help us gain a more joyful and authentic well-being.
00:00:39:01 - 00:01:15:21
Speaker 1
You know, we have a global mental health crisis, and I think people are becoming a lot more open to natural ways to address it versus always popping a pill. Microdosing is the practice of consistently consuming very small amounts of a psychedelic substance, often psilocybin mushrooms, with the intention of improving one's quality of life. And the benefits could include increased joy, greater presence, improved problem-solving, enhanced mood, increased productivity, better energy and presence, and so many more benefits.
00:01:16:04 - 00:01:51:24
Speaker 1
So I'm open. Are you open? Maybe you're a little mushroom curious. And trust me, you're going to find out from this episode. It's not the people that you think it really is for everybody. And there's a lot of demystifying that we do in this interview. So pull up a chair and let's dig in Hi, I'm Chef Mareya, The Fit Foodie, and this is Recipes for Your Best Life, where we dish about all things related to food health and wellness to nourish you from the inside out.
00:01:52:09 - 00:02:08:07
Speaker 1
I love hosting special guests who are experts in their field. And we also get to talk about topics that are important for your well-being. You'll always get lots of food for thought you can really sink your teeth into. So pull up a chair and welcome to the chef's table.
00:02:11:02 - 00:02:13:02
Speaker 1
Cori, it's so nice to have you on the show.
00:02:13:19 - 00:02:16:18
Speaker 2
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to speak with you.
00:02:16:24 - 00:02:39:17
Speaker 1
I'm really excited to because this is truly a topic that I have not much background on at all. And so I'm really going to be a student as well. As all of our listeners and really, you know, kind of getting behind the curtain, I guess, of what Microdosing means and the whys in the house and the watts of it.
00:02:39:24 - 00:02:43:11
Speaker 1
But how did you get started down this road to begin with?
00:02:43:23 - 00:03:08:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, so my name is Corey and I run a platform called Retreat It's a platform for psychedelic newcomers to learn how to microdosing for health outcomes in a data driven way. And I came about it through food, I think much like you and the Big Three are both through food and being a stressed out woman. So I am a serial entrepreneur.
00:03:09:24 - 00:03:31:24
Speaker 2
I have had a couple of businesses under my belt. The first one was a media company, all about food. The second one was a marketing agency helping early stage female founded brands selling much like you and much of your audience, like food and women are my thing, right? And then and then my third business I started a functional mushroom snack company to help people with stress and anxiety.
00:03:31:24 - 00:03:53:07
Speaker 2
I got really into functional mushrooms, ashwagandha, reishi, all these adaptogenic herbs. And that was because I was living the New York City life, and my whole body was inflamed, and I started experiencing, like, chronic pain that I thought was an autoimmune disorder or something. And it was actually just like stress, which is wild. Like stress can literally kill you.
00:03:53:07 - 00:04:17:14
Speaker 2
That's what they say. And that was what was happening to me. And so set out to help people incorporate functional medicine into their day to day life with healthy snacking and you know, was enjoying that, but started researching both from a personal and professional perspective, the benefits of other kinds of mushrooms, right? Like Sanjaya is a wild kingdom.
00:04:17:14 - 00:04:42:02
Speaker 2
There's mushrooms at your table, there's functional mushrooms like herbs. And then the category of psychedelic mushrooms is really, you know, trendy right now. But psychedelic mushrooms have been used for healing for thousands of thousands of years across cultures from, you know, Vikings in Iceland. To to Latin America, you know, as tech, Mayan, like across Latin America and different healing cultures.
00:04:42:02 - 00:04:53:20
Speaker 2
And they're only kind of new to Western society and medicine. As of the last 75 years. So I went down the mushroom rabbit hole and that's where I decided to stay.
00:04:54:14 - 00:05:24:15
Speaker 1
I just got a picture of Alice in Wonderland just right. Me and I think I think it's really fascinating because there are certain things that we have stigmatized while we've embraced others and it seems somewhat arbitrary. But what did you find in your research that compelled you around more of the and I'm going to air quotes psychedelic mushrooms because I think just that word gives people it does me.
00:05:24:15 - 00:05:47:12
Speaker 1
So I'm excited to learn why, but gives people like a preconceived notion of them going on a trip that they can't really control versus, you know, something taking. You mentioned other adaptogens, like ashwagandha and Ricci. Like, what made you compelled to go down more of the psychedelic mushroom route from a research perspective?
00:05:47:20 - 00:06:10:21
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think like backing up a quick overview. Like, I was always like I was a very, very straitlaced kid, right? Like, I was I were both in my hair. I got straight A's, I came home from school on time. I did everything everyone told me was like the correct thing to do. And so definitely was not like a recreational drug user in my in my teens and or twenties or really at all.
00:06:11:05 - 00:06:36:01
Speaker 2
And then I graduated from school. I found myself in like a lot of professional organizations that were like nonprofits in the government. And I really wanted to help people. I'm a helper and I'm a goody two shoes. And I kept running into structures and systems that were no longer serving us right, like government organizations that said they were going to help shift us to renewable energy or nonprofits that were helping workers.
00:06:36:01 - 00:06:56:13
Speaker 2
And nobody was really doing much. So I found my way to entrepreneurship by just lying to get things done and finding that, like, current systems and structures don't serve us. And then the back to those health issues ten years of entrepreneurship and living in New York City will take a toll on your body. And women, as you know, are way more sensitive to environmental stressors.
00:06:56:13 - 00:07:23:16
Speaker 2
Our hormones are much more complex, as are we, than men. And so, you know, I was experiencing these health issues and probably like a lot of people like I was trying to optimize, how do I fix this? Acupuncture is amazing, all these holistic, functional mushrooms. And I really wasn't addressing the mind body connection the way one should. And I found my way to mushrooms much later than many people.
00:07:23:16 - 00:07:52:03
Speaker 2
I'm 35, but I think I psychedelics help me realize is you can't address your health without addressing your mind and you certainly can help. There are many ways to tackle mental health without psychedelics. But for me and for many people dealing with trauma, there's a running joke that like psychedelics is like swallowing a therapist. So you can often work through a lot of things more quickly or more holistically with psychedelic medicine.
00:07:52:03 - 00:08:17:07
Speaker 2
So I had to unlearn a lot of stigmas. So I found out about mushrooms and I read books for 36 months, like I had mushrooms in my house. I didn't touch them because I was so scared I had to unlearn all of this. Politicization of mushrooms are bad. Psychedelic drugs are for hippies, and you all jump off a cliff and your might never be the same and burn holes in your brain.
00:08:17:10 - 00:08:22:28
Speaker 2
I was a dare kid, so I had to unlearn a lot before I even tried them.
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00:09:51:00 - 00:10:14:25
Speaker 1
Like how do you give guidelines to people that maybe do want to try that are scared to death? I mean, a true story here. Yeah. Nobody judges me. It's like maybe one of only two times I've ever smoked pot. But the one time I did it was laced with LSD. And I tripped the whole night. And it was the worst experience of my entire life.
00:10:15:06 - 00:10:31:24
Speaker 1
And I think for me, like, the idea of something like that happening again scares me to the point where I, I probably would have a really hard time touching anything again. But how do you know? Like, what's a micro dose?
00:10:32:02 - 00:10:53:29
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, I mean, sentence setting are huge and then trust, right? So, like, obviously, having a bad trip will traumatize anyone, and rightfully so. Right. Because, you know, I've only approach psychedelic medicine as an adult from like a structured, like, healing perspective, right? So you want to go into a macro journey knowing what you're taking and having a support system and having a set mindset, an intention.
00:10:54:00 - 00:11:15:14
Speaker 2
So that's one of the reasons. And of course, your experience was negative because you weren't you weren't prepared and I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Microdosing is a great place to start for those who had previous negative experiences or know psychedelic experience at all, because you can really tap into to the benefits of the one of the science from macro at like a more subtle, manageable level.
00:11:15:14 - 00:11:42:22
Speaker 2
So there are a few expert recommended protocols for microdosing and micro doses point one to point five grams and ask to for guidance like that's one 10th to one 20th of a recreational dose. So if you're like trying to take a hero's dose of mushrooms, you're taking between three to five over five grams and most times and then you're taking 0.1, 2.5 and a micro hero's dose.
00:11:42:23 - 00:12:03:28
Speaker 2
Yeah, you're hero's dose. You're taking a like a handful of mushrooms. You're definitely doing that with a micro dose. But you can read a lot of the benefits, mental, emotional and you know, so an enhanced kind of cognitive status through microdosing. So you do what is called a protocol. There's two really popular ones, the Fadiman Protocol and the stamp stack.
00:12:03:28 - 00:12:22:01
Speaker 2
They're both named for psychedelics sign and scientists James Fadiman and Paul Stamets. And that own protocol is great for beginners. You do one day on, two days off, so you have a microdosing day in the morning, then you have an integration day and then you have an off day. And the integration day is just the facts are kind of like the afterglow.
00:12:22:08 - 00:12:42:24
Speaker 2
And then you repeat that for eight to ten weeks and then you take a two month break. So a protocol is really wonderful to have a structure that's obviously based on science, but it also serves as a kind of container to make change. So when you're microdosing, there's like great habits that I would recommend. I have a journal right here, so start a morning routine, right?
00:12:42:24 - 00:13:02:03
Speaker 2
Take your micro dose, set an intention journal, kind of your goals and track your mood. And it really creates a space both on a day to day basis, but on, say, like an eight to ten week energy shift, right? Like if you're trying to reset like I you know, launched a business during my 90 day microdosing protocol. Right.
00:13:02:03 - 00:13:16:03
Speaker 2
Or a creative project or an energy shift in your life it's amazing to kind of set a broader intention and then have this kind of calendar to try to make change and can be really effective in a number of ways.
00:13:16:13 - 00:13:28:22
Speaker 1
Yeah, that was actually going to be my next question is how long does it take? Is it an immediate thing or is it, you know, are we talking weeks, days, or is it really just very individual?
00:13:29:02 - 00:13:56:11
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think it depends on how, what lens you're approaching it, right? So from a cognitive lens like science microdosing, there aren't a lot of studies. They're all the same. And all the studies on psychedelics are at a macro journey, right? They proved the efficacy of psilocybin, mushrooms for depression, treatment resistant depression, PTSD, post-partum trauma, all of these bigger mental health issues.
00:13:56:11 - 00:14:21:29
Speaker 2
And so what psychedelic mushrooms do is they help us unlock trauma. They enhance our neural capacity in neural connections and they also make us feel more grounded and connected and help with increased joy, right, for things like depression. So you can unlock a lot of these benefits improved mood, enhanced creativity, improved focus, etc. with microdosing. But it's very subtle, right?
00:14:21:29 - 00:14:41:24
Speaker 2
You want what's not more subtle than coffee or alcohol or. Right. You're not going to notice a buzz. It's very similar to CBD versus cannabis. So it is ongoing, right? Every person's different. But like we're I'm running a bunch of data, right? So we're noticing that people that are going through our microdosing program, their moods are improving, you know, shifting over time with daily tracking.
00:14:42:14 - 00:15:01:29
Speaker 2
For me, when I'm in a microdosing protocol about today, for example, I took microdosing like 8 a.m., nine 30. I just sort of feel my energy shift and I feel more like fluid and integrated. There's less friction, I feel more connected, more grounded, but it's super, super subtle and that's how it's meant to be.
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00:16:53:10 - 00:17:24:25
Speaker 2
Specifically the kind of three categories that need to be mindful or so people with a history of psychosis should not engage with psychedelics at any and all levels just because of the interaction they're antidepressants and ADHD. It's always really important to work with your your doctor. There's a huge community and an area that I'm really passionate about, people that are tapering off of their antidepressants with microdosing.
00:17:25:12 - 00:17:43:08
Speaker 2
So it's a kind of a movement right now. A lot of people are seeking to get off of synthetic pharmaceuticals and shift to more natural ways of improving mood and then having more joy in their day to day. That's really exciting. But I am not a doctor and it's always really important to work with your doctor and therapists.
00:17:43:08 - 00:17:55:28
Speaker 2
So yes, it can interact because they both both antidepressants and psilocybin interact with the serotonin, the same serotonin receptor in your brain. So they have a similar like kind of interaction.
00:17:56:16 - 00:18:12:13
Speaker 1
I'm smiling right now just because I would love to hear a conversation of somebody going to see their Western medicine doctor and saying, you know, I think I'm going to go off of my ADHD medication and start microdosing. I would love to hear what the reaction of the doctor would be.
00:18:12:21 - 00:18:27:24
Speaker 2
I know, right? I think that's a thing, though. So I mean, for people like you can't your doctor is not going to get you in trouble. And doctors cannot. It falls under the category of harm reduction. So, you know, your your doctor is not going to tell you where to get drugs. But like you're also he's not going to get you in trouble.
00:18:27:24 - 00:18:48:10
Speaker 2
For talking about it. And I'm noticing a shift in conversation. We have a chief medical officer on our team and he's noticing that people are in the medical world are talking to their peers more because more people are coming to them and asking like, how do I get off my anti-depressants with microdosing? And it's such a new, you know, it's not new.
00:18:48:11 - 00:18:55:08
Speaker 2
Mushrooms have been around forever, but it's new to the Western to the Western world, to your point. So people are asking about it and it's exciting when done one safely.
00:18:55:22 - 00:19:18:08
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I think you know, if you look at it just like anything, I mean, you know, antibiotics come from garlic and onions, really. So if we can create safer ways and I guess, you know, what I would like to see is some kind of standardized approach to the delivery of these so that you know, it's, you know, what you're getting.
00:19:18:13 - 00:19:50:09
Speaker 1
You know, you know, if you're taking a 10th or hundredth of, you know, a dose that it's clean and it's true. And, you know, and I'm sure the industry will evolve and, you know, come up with some sort of standardization for that. But anecdotally, how have you seen this work? I mean, part of me thinks like if somebody is on this, are they feeling a placebo effect or, you know, is there documented data that actually shows results?
00:19:50:09 - 00:20:20:16
Speaker 1
And how do you measure that? Know, I mean, I think, for example, if I if I and I'm just playing advocate here and advocate, but if you, you know, are telling me like this is going to work potentially and potentially you could get rid of something else in your life. Like if I really wanted to work and I feel better, that's sort of a self evaluation but is there anything in the data that actually shows real results?
00:20:21:06 - 00:20:39:20
Speaker 2
Well, there's only been one study, so. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I mean, it's really interesting for me mushrooms because I like approaching it from the cognitive Western minds is what you're asking, like where's the data? Right? And I'm a business person. I'm like, Where's the data? Like we're pulling together the data from all of our customers who will share their data about improvements.
00:20:39:20 - 00:21:06:18
Speaker 2
Right? And there are whole statements is, you know, kind of the mushroom man. He's like the Anna Winter of mushrooms. I don't know if he'd like that analogy, but he's pulling together one of the largest studies, but they're self-reported, right? Because the science right now is focusing on on the big stuff. Right. On on putting people through macro journeys in hospital kind of setting and monitoring outcomes for things like PTSD for veterans and depression.
00:21:06:18 - 00:21:35:10
Speaker 2
So most Microdosing Studies, there's one that's published that shows that improved creativity are self-reported over time. I think, you know, it's hard approaching it solely from a cognitive business lens. Right? But it's also similar like functional mushrooms, right? There's a million people selling functional mushrooms or blueberries or antioxidants and these things, it's like much like exercise, it kind of changes over time.
00:21:35:10 - 00:22:09:05
Speaker 2
For me, I think from a spiritual, emotional lens, I've seen the benefits in people around me. I've seen the benefits in our customers, I've seen the benefits in my own life. And I'm actually trying to shift my perspective so that it's not just where the data is. Right. That really matters. And I'm looking forward to there being more studies, but I kind of would argue like, does it matter if somebody was on a depressants for like ten years and then they used a microdosing protocol to get off of antidepressants, and now they're happy and joyful without synthetics?
00:22:09:24 - 00:22:11:16
Speaker 2
I don't know that. I don't know that it does.
00:22:11:16 - 00:22:30:24
Speaker 1
But now you bring up you bring up a great point. And I was really I agree with you, I was just kind of playing the other side for the people out there who I know will be like, show me the data. Yeah. And I and I you know, ultimately the goal is to move through life joyfully and to accomplish what we want.
00:22:30:24 - 00:22:48:10
Speaker 1
We were created to accomplish on this earth. I'm curious because being a woman in her fifties, you know, do you have any customers, clients that have used this successfully to manage hormonal shifts like moving into menopause?
00:22:48:21 - 00:23:17:07
Speaker 2
That is something that I am currently like looking into our community is primarily women, pregnant women. 32 to 60. Right. So see, there's a whole movement of moms who who microdot it's it's a huge trend. There is an article in the Washington Post and on Romper and and then I there's one study that shows that microdosing can help with PMS and PMDD.
00:23:18:02 - 00:23:41:00
Speaker 2
There aren't yet data on on the hormonal shifts later in life menopause and whatnot. But I do it's because of the interaction with your serotonin receptors it helps the sort of like pain. And so I do think that there is a benefit there that there will be and I know there are a number of women I can probably can actually do that are playing around with it for that for that purpose.
00:23:41:00 - 00:23:51:13
Speaker 1
So you part of your business is a community basically that shares information, etc. How do people find that community?
00:23:51:26 - 00:24:14:16
Speaker 2
Yeah. So you know, my mission again is to help normalize psychedelic medicine for people, primarily women who are looking for natural solutions. Right. And so we have a free community on Retreat Microsoft.com and a free media platform with articles like the ones I mentioned, like can microdosing help with PMS can it help your sex life? Yes and yes.
00:24:14:16 - 00:24:48:11
Speaker 2
And the next one, you know, we'll, we'll look into anecdotally and whatever data is out there for things like menopause and so the just free retreat Microsoft.com. We also have a free microdosing guide for psychedelic newcomers. It's a great like downloadable and then we also offer paid services like meeting with a coach, a therapist, both for microdosing and soon for post macro journey kind of integration works are really goal is to be to your best friend, your coach or a therapist that's there to help you through these changes.
00:24:48:11 - 00:24:50:11
Speaker 2
If you're curious about psychedelic medicine.
00:24:50:28 - 00:25:10:28
Speaker 1
That's great and we'll include that link in the show notes and on our blog so you can link to it directly on back to kind of just the application of microdosing. Is this something that you ingest, that you eat, or is it in capsule form or is it powder? Like, how do you actually take it.
00:25:11:26 - 00:25:31:17
Speaker 2
Varies by format, right? But what you're but what we're microdosing in this instance is as mushrooms and these mushrooms grow in nature, right? There's 180 different types of psilocybin and they grow many in the Pacific Northwest. So if you're in like Washington State, or Oregon, you could go for a hike and you can find something you can pick up and you can you could eat them.
00:25:32:00 - 00:25:53:24
Speaker 2
Definitely recommend using a buck, but be careful. You could do dried mushrooms most of the time. It's in supplements like a little pill form, you know, healer people will grow mushrooms. They'll they'll dry them, they'll ground them up and they'll put them in a capsule or there's there's gummies and things like that. People won't like them and chocolate bars and things like that.
00:25:53:24 - 00:26:19:01
Speaker 2
I think ceremonially mushrooms have been used in, you know, healing kind of raw mushrooms. And I think it's important to carry over that back to the spiritual piece and not just the cognitive Western lens I really recommend cleaning the energy. Paulo Santos setting an intention to kind of go back to how mushrooms were originally used by current areas who are healers in the mass attack culture back there.
00:26:19:01 - 00:26:21:26
Speaker 2
So I think it's important to honor where they.
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00:27:02:13 - 00:27:55:07
Speaker 1
Nir infrared and red light wavelengths to be exact. And I love that it takes just ten to 12 minutes to do its magic. I literally use it daily for exercise, recovery, pain management, treating fine lines and wrinkles. And even with my mood, it's helped me and my family in so many ways. This is the ultimate biotech I lean into and I know it will help you receive $250 off with my code chef Maria at the blue box dot com that's the l u m e r dot com the ritual that goes along with it kind of like, you know, serious ceremonial cow or you know, I think, you know in so many cultures not that ancient, you
00:27:55:07 - 00:28:26:03
Speaker 1
know, Native American cultures that had ceremonies around smoking. So a little bit different. But obviously it's it's not something that is that far off. Do you think that and this is just my own thing. So take it for what it's worth with my own lens. But I feel like for me, cannabis became more palate able because of CBD that I could enjoy the CBD and have it.
00:28:26:11 - 00:28:39:12
Speaker 1
What would I like to say? Take the edge off you and feel like you know, I was doing it in a way that was, you know, above board. Again, don't pass any judgment. This is just me thinking.
00:28:39:16 - 00:29:03:08
Speaker 2
That was that was me similar for me as well. I was never really into cannabis. I like to joke that I'm already always hungry and always smiling. It's like, who needs marijuana when I'm already like cheese in and and eating popcorn? Like, I just not it didn't really appeal to me. But then having, you know, and anxious and sleep issues and living in New York City, having CBD to take the edge off was really powerful.
00:29:03:08 - 00:29:23:13
Speaker 2
And I find that there's a similar when you think about it from a value add or a business opportunity like microdosing as the new CBD if psychedelics and the new cannabis. That being said, they're very different plants and they offer lots lots of benefits to both. I'm definitely not a drug elitist. Like if you like cannabis, that's great.
00:29:23:13 - 00:29:28:26
Speaker 2
If you like psychedelics, that's great. I'm just really excited about that. The mental health benefits of.
00:29:28:28 - 00:29:58:27
Speaker 1
Yeah, well the reason that I brought that up is do you think that potentially that's sort of the route that mushrooms will take and do you think the word psychedelic is, you know, something that will stay in a lexicon that's applied to, you know, the mushrooms, or do you think that will, you know? Yeah, what I'm asking you to look into your crystal ball right now and tell me just from what you've studied and what you've seen the market doing.
00:29:59:11 - 00:30:20:19
Speaker 2
Look, if I'm thinking about it as a marketer and a brand builder, with my consumer kind of SEO CMO hat on, I definitely think it makes sense to have a separation of microdosing from psychedelics, the way CBD really benefited from a separation from cannabis. Right? You see, CBD, I would buy it at the like the high end nail salon and, you know, at the like really.
00:30:20:19 - 00:30:21:08
Speaker 1
Where now.
00:30:21:19 - 00:30:21:25
Speaker 2
I.
00:30:23:08 - 00:30:23:15
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:30:23:16 - 00:30:45:29
Speaker 2
It was, oh, it was like it's like pretty and packaged and things like that. I do think that that that is likely what will happen and that makes sense from a business perspective. Again, really, as I get older and as I get a daze, I take more mushrooms, I get more like spiritual and more intentional. And I don't want to lose the like the reverence and the respect that comes with mushrooms, right?
00:30:45:29 - 00:31:09:20
Speaker 2
Like there's they're going to be there synthetic psilocybin to your point around, like you know, method of delivery. There's companies that are creating synthetic versions of psilocybin so that you can count on the delivery and the dosage and the safety, and it'll become a pharmaceutical. But back to the like attention. Mushrooms have been used by women healers to heal their communities across Latin America for thousands and thousands of years.
00:31:09:20 - 00:31:37:21
Speaker 2
And I really like reverence to be really special, like the idea of women healing ourselves and healing our communities is really is really meaningful to me. And is something that I want to take through my personal narrative and the business. Right. We're looking at doing like launching a charitable arm where you have like a percentage of sales back to to these original healers and medicine growers, and it makes it special and the ceremony piece.
00:31:37:21 - 00:31:49:20
Speaker 2
So so yeah, I think they'll you'll be able to get the VA already can get microdosing gummies and it's like looks like an Apple store, right? Like it's pretty it's pretty already happening. But my hope is that we keep a little bit of that special ceremony.
00:31:49:29 - 00:32:11:10
Speaker 1
The raw part of it and part of it. Yeah, this has been really fascinating and I hope everybody goes and checks out your website. I always ask the same question to my guests to wrap up our time together and that is if you could have one meal prepared by anybody what would the meal be and who would make it?
00:32:11:24 - 00:32:13:08
Speaker 2
Okay, okay.
00:32:15:22 - 00:32:42:25
Speaker 2
Well, I would I have my old self is mushrooms don't like don't like meat and processed foods, but I'm a big steak frites and and red wine kind of gal. And so my favorite chef is, is chef Jose Andres. He's actually a friend of mine. And he obviously had like a Spanish accent. So I think maybe like Jose.
00:32:43:03 - 00:32:58:13
Speaker 2
Yes, we like a great glass of like a natural Spanish tempranillo with Jose and maybe like a flank steak, like prepared Spanish style with Jose. And it would be great to catch up with him. He's been saving the world and feeding the hungry for for many years.
00:32:58:26 - 00:33:03:14
Speaker 1
And so yeah, how about a talk about a living a living state?
00:33:03:29 - 00:33:07:17
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I, I'd like to have steak and red wine with Jose.
00:33:08:07 - 00:33:32:05
Speaker 1
I love it. I love it. Corey, thank you. Thank you for opening up our eyes to a different alternative to synthetic anything. I think is a better way to go. And if people can use it in a responsible way to get more enjoy and feel less stressed and be happier in their skin, then by all means, right?
00:33:32:23 - 00:33:34:16
Speaker 2
We all need it these days, months.
00:33:34:22 - 00:33:40:02
Speaker 1
That's the goal. For sure. World peace. Thank you.
00:33:40:24 - 00:33:41:19
Speaker 2
Thank you.
00:33:44:01 - 00:34:03:25
Speaker 1
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00:34:03:25 - 00:34:24:16
Speaker 1
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00:34:25:02 - 00:34:31:09
Speaker 1
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